so i say president obama allows us to go over the cliff temporarily so that all the rates go up. then the democrats introduce a bill to lower it for 9 %, do some other stiff -- 98%, do some other stuff they want to do. then the republicans say fine but we've got to hold the debt ceiling, that's the next bargaining chip. i don't think we can use rides above for the debt ceiling because we don't want to rise above the debt ceiling. we have to come one new buttons -- >> pins, the whole thing. yeah. that is a dilemma. what a polemic -- >> constantino is cutting me off. you're going to hold that against me? all right. >> you can hear the voice in my head. >> yeah. he's mad because i attributed -- in fact, he was right. so -- sort of right. >>> coming up, we'll be talking to you in a second. what's that? one in a row. you're right, bob. that's it. >>> coming up, we'll head to vienna where opec leaders are talking crude prices and production. and what is the ceo of the world's largest retailer saying about the fiscal cliff? i bet he wants to rise above. find out your next question on "s